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作者: Tcp80 时间: 2019-11-27 23:15
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作者: 刘贾宜 时间: 2019-11-27 23:19
肯定不平衡啊

作者: o(╥﹏╥)o 时间: 2019-11-27 23:20
是啥软件？

作者: 爱安利的芋头 时间: 2019-11-27 23:20
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作者: Tcp80 时间: 2019-11-27 23:21
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作者: StudyOverseas 时间: 2019-11-27 23:31
我还在观望，目前免费版用着挺好，主要是缺了鉴黄接口，如果开源之后有人能把鉴黄给接入了也挺好呀

作者: Tcp80 时间: 2019-11-27 23:34
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作者: openos 时间: 2019-11-27 23:38

作者: Tcp80 时间: 2019-11-27 23:40
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作者: openos 时间: 2019-11-27 23:44
楼主真认为最重要的几个功能 v4会免费?
那作者要喝西北风了.
如果没有我没有猜错, 那么v4的免费功能也就是和现在的free功能差不多.
最重要的几个功能一样要花钱买.

如果现在免费版本能达到楼主的要求就用免费版就好了.
达不到就付费买商业版.

作者: Tcp80 时间: 2019-11-27 23:48
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作者: openos 时间: 2019-11-27 23:51

Tcp80 发表于 2019-11-27 23:48
是v3，不知道是你打错了还是

这个老外昨天怎么是讲的，V4出来V3免费

没看到说v4出来后v3就免费.

这么纠结就别买了, 等v4出来后再看吧.

作者: Tcp80 时间: 2019-11-27 23:53
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作者: openos 时间: 2019-11-28 00:02

Tcp80 发表于 2019-11-27 23:53
开源我理解差不多是要免费吧，虽然不知道v2是不是v3之前的付费版，现在免费版是之前的v2 ...

开源不等于免费.
这里说的是就算v4发布后, v3都会至少支持到2022年11月,

现在的是v3免费版本加付费版本, 而付费版本里面包含了所有功能.
而v4会以开源方式去发布, 但是部分插件或者叫功能还是要收费. 也就是说你需要哪个插件就花钱买, 到时把需要的功能都买了肯定不止现在v3付费版的价格, 而且这个插件还可能会以订阅式的方式去收费, 而不是像现在v3一次性全部买断(这个还不确定, 因为作者说过一次, 但是用户都不同意, 不知道后续会怎么样)

说白了就是还不如现在的v3免费版+v3付费版

到时等v3下架后你就知道了.

作者: Tcp80 时间: 2019-11-28 00:10
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作者: openos 时间: 2019-11-28 00:24

Tcp80 发表于 2019-11-28 00:10
主要我想问下那个老外，V4出来的时候有V3的授权下能不能便宜升级，如果有的话付费版V3升级了V4那么V3的授 ...

我记得说老授权用户是开始几个月升级到v4是有优惠，具体优惠多少不知道.

作者: Tcp80 时间: 2019-11-28 00:26
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作者: openos 时间: 2019-11-28 00:48

Tcp80 发表于 2019-11-28 00:26
那升级后老版授权是不是没有了

这个我也不知道，理论上来说就没有了.
要不然就话就是两个授权了.

作者: Tcp80 时间: 2019-11-28 00:52
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作者: openos 时间: 2019-11-28 00:59

Tcp80 发表于 2019-11-28 00:52
我就怕这种情况，就得血亏@Chevereto

没发现血亏到哪里去, 你买的东西又不是给你变没了, 怕血亏可以不升级, v3一直可以用.

我建议你还是别买了, 别买了又感觉后悔.

作者: Chevereto 时间: 2019-11-28 02:34
Hi again,

If I understand it correctly, the concerns can be narrowed down to the following:

1. Should I buy V3 and later update to V4 or should I wait for V4?

To answer that, it depends on when you want to provision the service. If you want to do it right now, with all features, then you should buy it. If you don't care for the paid features then you should don't buy it and go for the Chevereto-Free product, simple as that.

If you plan to have a Chevereto V4 installation in the future and you wonder which is the cheapest way to get there, it depends on how many paid features you really need. If you need all what is considered now a paid feature then the cheapest path will be to buy V3 then upgrade V4. If you only need a couple of paid features then I believe that V4 could be cheaper, but it all depends case to case and it also depends on the future offering of third-party software providers. In this case, I'm afraid that I can't point you in the absolute cheapest path.

Chevereto 3 has LTS until Nov 2022 and beyond that date I'm sure that there will be plenty installations still online so there should be a community around users of that edition in the case you don't want to ever upgrade to V4.

V4 will be released way before the Chevereto 3 LTS ends. But there's no date yet. You can check the nearly live work in progress here: https://github.com/Chevereto/chevere (daily hourly updates of the current work being made).

I think that I will know the release date when I have like three months left or something like that. Sorry for not having a concrete date, but we work focused in the quality not in the deadlines.

2. How much will V4 going to cost?

Chevereto V4 will be both free and Open Source, with the option to purchase a paid package containing a selection of must-have paid features like for example, External Storage. The goal is to monetize the software as a subcription service where we can add new components which you can freely pick and use it in your installation. We also want to sell one-time plugins/themes and create a store where third-party developers can also offer their software (both free and paid).

Chances are that V4 will become cheaper on the long run as more developers jump in the platform. Since our business is the software itself, we will encourage developers with extremely low fees, which will make our software more compelling and cheaper to customize.

The exact price of the thing is still unknown and I don't want to name a price in case I have to change it due to the market trends. Of course that I've a number in my head, a number that I will love to share, but it will be very irresponsable to mention it. Our goal is to make self-hosting feasible for everybody, we strongly believe in provide that freedom and the cheaper we can do it the better for our goal.

3. How does V3 compares to V4?

Probably the biggest difference is the quality. While on the surface both editions will achieve similar functionality, V4 architecture is far superior which makes it cheaper to work with and more reliable. As a consumer, you aren't affected by that difference directly but it affects how the software is delivered and developed which ends up affecting you anyway.

V4 is a headless software focused in delivering an API. With CLI commands and a lot of stuff that V3 totally lacks of. Is easier, faster, tested and we even want to start doing continous delivery.

Regarding V4 features, the idea is that all what is now considered a paid feature will become part of the base system (free, Open Source), but in the long term. A process like this requires years. A lot of time is required to replace the paid offering with new stuff, it will be a gradual process. In other words, while we are making free/standard something like "Social followers", at the same time we will add something new (paid) like automatic image recognition.

The idea is to carry this process all the way and always be able to work in something new. We get bored doing the same thing over and over, we want to push new stuff.

4. No bs, how can I get V4 cheap?

Try to buy it (or upgrade it) on the release day. We will offer early bird prices and for existing license owners we will offer additional discounts on top of the early bird. I don't know how much will be the actual discount, I just know that we will make a nice, fair and good offer, as always... And if we are making a new software major version, believe me that we will put all our efforts into make the transition extremely attractive.

(sorry for the long post, I tried to reply all what I just read in this topic).

作者: Tcp80 时间: 2019-11-28 07:05
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作者: 热心市民 时间: 2019-11-28 07:12
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作者: dollaring 时间: 2019-11-28 07:13
真的有用就买呗，纠结半天

作者: 快乐风男 时间: 2019-11-28 07:33
作者说的够清楚了，现在软件都是转向模块化、订阅化，获得稳定的持续收益。长远看没有永久买断舒服，但是可以支持开发者一直开发，单次成本也低，半中间不想做了付出的成本也低。

作者: Chevereto 时间: 2019-11-28 10:29

Tcp80 发表于 2019-11-27 19:05
请说一下当我基于V3付费版这个载体升级到V4软件后，我之前购买的这个付费版V3软件授权还存在吗？ ...

By upgrading from V3 to V4 you will actually get a new license added to your account. Any access or permission to run V3 won't be interrupted if you upgrade.

I hope that I answered your question, otherwise don't hesitate to let me know.

作者: 凤梨 时间: 2019-11-28 10:41
你看这作者打击盗版的力度就知道是很看重收入的，不可能完全免费的

作者: Tcp80 时间: 2019-11-28 11:06
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